"feminist get tough maleness"? (r)

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statusquo@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote so dawn star replies
listen statusquo,  i apologised  and thats it for me, i said i was sorry 
i used the public transport system,by error of key tap,  and i am not 
going on with this, because its private, but i will say, if you think 
thats offensive, learn whats really offensive, come to paris, or go 
to burma, and learn for yourself, or maybe you already have, and in that 
case,  have a nice day,no more comment here, now get to work or have a 
nice day, and stay off the public system if its private what  you have 
to say, dawn star out
> 
> From: statusquo@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Nick Jehlen)
> 
> >From: "dawn star (Euro-Burmanet)" <cd@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >dear john and conference burmanet people,
> >
> >about a rather flippant query about the french female sex,
> >sorry for the remark on the main net line, thought it was personal,
> >please excuse the chatter
> >out, and back to work
> > dawn star
> 
> Dear John, dawn star, and everyone else,
> 
> Well, that's the most offensive thing I've seen in email in a long while -
> and that's saying something! I suppose it should serve as a reminder tho -
> not that we need to be careful about what we post to the listserve, but
> that attitudes like that ("preferably very young, and charming and sexy and
> they do not go in for all that feminist get tough maleness, they can exceed
> without it, with their own intelligent feminism") abound in all movements.
> 
> I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I still am. "feminist get tough
> maleness"? Did you mean to say "self-confident, willing to make up their
> own minds"? I guess I should be glad that this got posted on the list-serve
> - at least we'll all remember what pigs we can be when we think no one else
> is listening. Instead of appologizing for posting this on the serve, try
> not talking about women in demeaning and objectifying ways - even in
> private.
> 
> Nick Jehlen
> 
> P.S. Please don't take this as a self-righteous letter - I've said some
> pretty offensive and stupid things in my time - but I'm working on changing
> my own sexist ideas - I hope we call can.