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HTUN AUNG GYAW AND CSB (r)
- Subject: HTUN AUNG GYAW AND CSB (r)
- From: hag2@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:31:00
Dear Ko KZY,
Thanks for sharing your view. We all need to be open minded. There is no
place for self centered persons in the future. I am pretty sure about this.
I really enjoy your writing and value your thoughts.
with best regards
Htun Aung Gyaw
At 08:29 AM 9/26/98, you wrote:
>Dear those who are writing about Ko Htun Aung Kyaw and CSB and political
>asylum cases, (I am so glad that my mother hates Ne Win and didn't put
>anything relating to the name Ne Win in my name - some people love to put
>his name in their name though.)
> First of all I don't have to defend Ko Htun Aung Kyaw, Ko Myo
>Thant, and Dr. Vun Sum(the spelling). Is asylum an outcoming opportunity
>of the sacrifices in Burma? I don't know anyone in Burma fights the
>military junta for the occurance of asylum status in other countries.
>Everyone does fight for the cause of democracy. It is not an opportunity
>awarded to the democracy activists. Who are sacrificing in Burma? Only
>students? Only NLD? Only Daw Aung San Suu Kyi? No, all kinds of people
>from Burma are suffering and sacrificing. In 1988, remember that the
>majority of people who were killed were not students but the people from
>every layers. Even thoug the students led the demonstrations, without the
>potential power of people's involvement, 8888 uprising would never be the
>same. It would never happen without people's power. When we say the
>people, it include all. Faremers, workers, businessmen, soldiers, ... all
>are the people. Can't they get asylum if they want to? Aren't they also
>suppressed? We fled from our country and we became the refugees or
>political asylees. Why can't everyone if they want to? It is very
>painful for being a refugee and being a political asylee. I want to be a
>citizen of Burma but I couldn't and so as all other people who can't bear
>anymore. That is why I became a refugee. Is it something to be proud
>of? No way. Then why are we arguing about who should get asylum! When
>we want to say who should get asylum, we should ask ourselves that who are
>suffering and who are not included in that category. We should realize
>that not only the students are dedicating for the cause but all. The
>students shouldn't be special. Iwas a student in 1988 but I involved in
>the struggle as a people. For our sacrifice, we, the students shouldn't
>yearn for special status anywhere. If we do, what can we say the fact
>SLORC or SPDC believ. They said they fought in the independent movement
>so they should hold important positions for their sacrifice in future
>Burma. (even though only a few who really took part int eh independent
>struggle are barely alive today in the army). Are we fighting for our
>future opportunities?
> A guy wrote that political asylum issue in solidarity with NCGUB,
>FTUB and so on. Well, are they also clear from issuing recommendations?
>You can hear a lot in New York and In D.C. You can also see their
>documents still. What is the point? We will know where your e-mails come
>from very soon. Is it the messages you want to tell people in response to
>Ko Htun Aung Kyaw's opposition against NCGUB and FTUB?
> In 1996 USIA scholarship selection, my friend Zaw Wint didn't get
>the scholarship. Maung Maung from FTUB told him that if he worked with
>FTUB again, Maung Maung could put my friend in the scholarship
>receipients. It was just a bullshit that he had nothing to do with the
>Scholarship committee and his push wouldn't change its decision. It is an
>example of profiting and recommendation treaties by them. If you want to
>work for them, you can get some opportunities or bones that they don't
>want. That is. We should be clear that asylum or refugee status are not
>opportunities in reward for the dedication. At the end of the day, INS
>in US hardly know who Htun Aung Kyaw is, who Dr. Sein Win is, or who maung
>maung is. They hardly know NCGUB or FTUB or anything.
> Some would say that we are not refugees or political asylees. Dam
>rights but all have to beg from NGOs or donors and depend completely on
>refugee rice. Humantarian assistance is for refugees no matter whoever
>their backgrounds are.
> Don't waste the time for nothing.
>
>
>Yours sincerely,
>Kyaw Zay Ya
>
>
>
>On 26 Sep 1998 newinnaing@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> Dear MYO THANT or MYO MA THANT or who ever you are,
>>
>> You seem to be very angry with what was stated towards HAG.
>> Did you get asylum through him and his "Crude Slimes from Burma CSB"?
>>
>> >From your writing, it can be judged that you did not come from the
>> movement (whether party politics, military involvement or ethnic
>> equality struggle) and therefore does not seem to have due respect for
>> those who came out from there.
>>
>> Will it be on target to say that you - - are taking one or the other of
>> the stipends and scholarships that had been initiated because of the 88
>> movement (check and you will see that all the scholarships and stipends
>> and free tutions were started only after 1988).
>>
>> The students of 88 had not objected to people from Burma getting the
>> funds or asylum. They are protesting against the free rides -- those who
>> even after getting asylum and all the related benefits say "I have my
>> family back in Burma -- and cannot do anything to get them into peril",
>> and those who are writing untrue/unproven statements. On these the 88
>> students have the right to do so.
>>
>>
>> HAG, being a Hypocrite is not fit to have initiated a "Civil Society"
>> just the same thing YOU should also undestand. Some examples -
>>
>> Do you know HAG was unable to a report or explain to the ABSDF about the
>> 200,000 Bahts (back in 1995 at the rate of 25Bts -- 1US$) donated by
>> the Kawsakis from BRF of Japan. As far as the story goes, between HAG
>> and KKL (who is also now in LA) the money was handed to them in BKK but
>> never went to the ABSDF accounts?
>>
>> - Do you know of that HAG brought his Thai girl friend to the US
>> (yes, he does have his
>> Burmese wife in the US also -- is that bigamy?) You can ask his
>> wife -- you can ask
>> Aung Kyi Oo -- you can ask Saya Nyan Lin.
>>
>> Do you know that OGGAR (son of one of the activists in Burma) committee
>> suicide in
>> HAG's apartment in BKK. HAG never came back to the room to take
>> care of the corpse
>> and the funeral ?
>>
>>
>> Stay away fella (just re-using your very US like expression) -- pick
>> your own size and voice only if you know the specifics.
>>
>> Let the young people of the ABSDF who followed the decisions of HAG and
>> were unsatisfied with that express themselves. They identify themselves
>> and HAG will be replying himself.
>>
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> Date: 25 Sep 1998 15:55:38
>> Reply-To: Conference "reg.burma" <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> From: Myothant@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: HTUN AUNG GYAW AND CSB
>> To: Recipients of burmanet-l <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> What's wrong with Htun Aung Gyaw?
>>
>> Do you think he should not help the Burmese, who just came out of Burma
>> and
>> are thus not capable of translating their own experiences in Burma?
>> I think, every Burmese in Burma is equally mistreated by the military
>> fascists.
>> So....what's the big deal?
>>
>> Every Burmese, execept those military family members who are directly
>> benefitting from the present repressive rule, is entitled to receive
>> "protection" and "asylum" from the US or elsewhere.
>>
>> Have you ever heard Daw Aung San Suu Kyi say, "We want the world know
>> that we
>> are the prisoners of our own country?"
>> Have you ever seen the BBC's documentary, "The Fourty Million Hostages"?
>> Do you want all Burmese people to be beaten against the fully-closed
>> walls of
>> SLORC's prison while you yourself are breathing the air of freedom and
>> equality in the US, Australia,Canada in the name of fighting for
>> democracy?
>>
>> You may all be students or NLD members or ethnic fighters who once
>> experienced
>> hardship while you fought along the Thai-Indo-Burma regions. This does
>> not
>> mean that you have the right to see other unfortunate citizens, who
>> don't come
>> out for their own reasons, as different breed.
>>
>> This revolution was participated by people from all walks of life; from
>> prostitutes to monks; high and low.
>>
>> If you keep misjudging Ko Htun Aung Gyaw's work as selfseeking behavior,
>> you
>> are comaparing him to your own standards.
>>
>> Please review your unilateral view about WHO should get "asylum."
>>
>> Every Burmese should get "asylum."
>>
>> Be considerate, fellas.
>> Revolution is still alive. Let's go together with full maturiy and
>> understanding among us.
>> Distinguish the problems with proper perspectives.
>> The new commers are not problems. They came to the US for they had
>> unbearable
>> problems; economic hardship, social crisis, lack of freedom of
>> movement..
>> Remember the fact that All Burmese citizens inside Burma are now being
>> enslaved by the military regime.
>>
>>
>>
>> Myo Thant
>>
>>
>>
>>
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