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HTUN AUNG GYAW AND CSB (r)



Dear Ko KZY,
Thanks for sharing your view.  We all need to be open minded. There is no
place for self centered persons in the future.  I am pretty sure about this.
I really enjoy your writing and value your thoughts.

with best regards

Htun Aung Gyaw 

At 08:29 AM 9/26/98, you wrote:
>Dear those who are writing about Ko Htun Aung Kyaw and CSB and political
>asylum cases, (I am so glad that my mother hates Ne Win and didn't put
>anything relating to the name Ne Win in my name - some people love to put
>his name in their name though.)
>	First of all I don't have to defend Ko Htun Aung Kyaw, Ko Myo
>Thant, and Dr. Vun Sum(the spelling).  Is asylum an outcoming opportunity
>of the sacrifices in Burma?  I don't know anyone in Burma fights the
>military junta for the occurance of asylum status in other countries.
>Everyone does fight for the cause of democracy.  It is not an opportunity
>awarded to the democracy activists.  Who are sacrificing in Burma?  Only
>students?  Only NLD? Only Daw Aung San Suu Kyi?  No, all kinds of people
>from Burma are suffering and sacrificing.  In 1988, remember that the
>majority of people who were killed were not students but the people from
>every layers.  Even thoug the students led the demonstrations, without the
>potential power of people's involvement, 8888 uprising would never be the
>same.  It would never happen without people's power.  When we say the
>people, it include all.  Faremers, workers, businessmen, soldiers, ... all
>are the people.  Can't they get asylum if they want to?  Aren't they also
>suppressed?  We fled from our country and we became the refugees or
>political asylees.  Why can't everyone if they want to?  It is very
>painful for being a refugee and being a political asylee.  I want to be a
>citizen of Burma but I couldn't and so as all other people who can't bear
>anymore.  That is why I became a refugee.  Is it something to be  proud
>of?  No way.  Then why are we arguing about who should get asylum!  When
>we want to say who should get asylum, we should ask ourselves that who are
>suffering and who are not included in that category.  We should realize
>that not only the students are dedicating for the cause but all.  The
>students shouldn't be special.  Iwas a student in 1988 but I involved in
>the struggle as a people.  For our sacrifice, we, the students shouldn't
>yearn for special status anywhere.  If we do, what can we say the fact
>SLORC or SPDC believ.  They said they fought in the independent movement
>so they should hold important positions for their sacrifice in future
>Burma. (even though only a few who really took part int eh independent
>struggle are barely alive today in the army).  Are we fighting for our
>future opportunities?  
>	A guy wrote that political asylum issue in solidarity with NCGUB,
>FTUB and so on.  Well, are they also clear from issuing recommendations?
>You can hear a lot in New York and In D.C.  You can also see their
>documents still.  What is the point?  We will know where your e-mails come
>from very soon.  Is it the messages you want to tell people in response to
>Ko Htun Aung Kyaw's opposition against NCGUB and FTUB?  
>	In 1996 USIA scholarship selection, my friend Zaw Wint didn't get
>the scholarship.  Maung Maung from FTUB told him that if he worked with
>FTUB again, Maung Maung could put my friend in the scholarship
>receipients.  It was just a bullshit that he had nothing to do with the
>Scholarship committee and his push wouldn't change its decision.  It is an
>example of profiting and recommendation treaties by them.  If you want to
>work for them, you can get some opportunities or bones that they don't
>want.  That is.  We should be clear that asylum or refugee status are not
>opportunities  in reward for the dedication.    At the end of the day, INS
>in US hardly know who Htun Aung Kyaw is, who Dr. Sein Win is, or who maung
>maung is.  They hardly know NCGUB or FTUB or anything.  
>	Some would say that we are not refugees or political asylees.  Dam
>rights but all have to beg from NGOs or donors and depend completely on
>refugee rice.  Humantarian assistance is for refugees no matter whoever
>their backgrounds are.  
>	Don't waste the time for nothing.  
>	
>
>Yours sincerely,
>Kyaw Zay Ya
>
>
>
>On 26 Sep 1998 newinnaing@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> Dear MYO THANT or MYO MA THANT or who ever you are,
>> 
>> You seem to be very angry with what was stated towards HAG.
>> Did you get asylum through him and his  "Crude Slimes from Burma CSB"?
>> 
>> >From your writing, it can be judged that you did not come from the 
>> movement (whether party politics, military involvement or ethnic 
>> equality struggle) and therefore does not seem to have due respect for 
>> those who came out from there.
>> 
>> Will it be on target to say that you - - are taking one or the other of 
>> the stipends and scholarships that had been initiated because of the 88 
>> movement (check and you will see that all the scholarships and stipends 
>> and free tutions were started only after 1988).
>> 
>> The students of 88 had not objected to people from Burma getting the 
>> funds or asylum. They are protesting against the free rides -- those who 
>> even after getting asylum and all the related benefits say "I have my 
>> family back in Burma -- and cannot do anything to get them into peril", 
>> and those who are writing untrue/unproven statements. On these the 88 
>> students have the right to do so.
>> 
>> 
>> HAG, being a Hypocrite is not fit to have initiated a "Civil Society"  
>> just the same thing YOU should also undestand. Some examples -
>>   
>> Do you know HAG was unable to a report or explain to the ABSDF about the 
>> 200,000 Bahts  (back in 1995 at the rate of 25Bts -- 1US$) donated by 
>> the Kawsakis from BRF of Japan. As far as the story goes, between HAG 
>> and KKL (who is also now in LA) the money was handed to them in BKK but 
>> never went to the ABSDF accounts? 
>> 
>> -    Do you know of that HAG brought his Thai girl friend to the US 
>> (yes, he does have his 
>>       Burmese wife in the US also -- is that bigamy?) You can ask his 
>> wife -- you can ask 
>>      Aung Kyi Oo  -- you can ask Saya Nyan Lin. 
>> 
>> Do you know that OGGAR (son of one of the activists in Burma) committee 
>> suicide in
>>      HAG's apartment in BKK.  HAG never came back to the room to take 
>> care of the corpse 
>>      and the funeral ?
>> 
>> 
>> Stay away fella (just re-using your very US like expression) -- pick 
>> your own size and voice only if you know the specifics. 
>> 
>> Let the young people of the ABSDF who followed the decisions of HAG and 
>> were unsatisfied with that express themselves. They identify themselves 
>> and HAG will be replying himself. 
>> 
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> Date: 25 Sep 1998 15:55:38
>> Reply-To: Conference "reg.burma" <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> From: Myothant@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: HTUN AUNG GYAW AND CSB
>> To: Recipients of burmanet-l <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> What's wrong with Htun Aung Gyaw?
>> 
>> Do you think he should not help the Burmese, who just came out of Burma 
>> and
>> are thus not capable of translating their own experiences in Burma?
>> I think, every Burmese in Burma is equally mistreated by the military
>> fascists.
>> So....what's the big deal?  
>> 
>> Every Burmese, execept those military family members who are directly
>> benefitting from the present repressive rule, is entitled to receive
>> "protection" and "asylum" from the US or elsewhere.
>> 
>> Have you ever heard Daw Aung San Suu Kyi say, "We want the world know 
>> that we
>> are the prisoners of our own country?"
>> Have you ever seen the BBC's documentary, "The Fourty Million Hostages"?
>> Do you want all Burmese people to be beaten against the fully-closed 
>> walls of
>> SLORC's prison while you yourself are breathing the air of freedom and
>> equality in the US, Australia,Canada in the name of fighting for 
>> democracy?
>> 
>> You may all be students or NLD members or ethnic fighters who once 
>> experienced
>> hardship while you fought along the Thai-Indo-Burma regions.  This does 
>> not
>> mean that you have the right to see other unfortunate citizens, who 
>> don't come
>> out for their own reasons, as different breed.
>> 
>> This revolution was participated by people from all walks of life; from
>> prostitutes to monks; high and low.
>> 
>> If you keep misjudging Ko Htun Aung Gyaw's work as selfseeking behavior, 
>> you
>> are comaparing him to your own standards.
>> 
>> Please review your unilateral view about WHO should get "asylum."
>> 
>> Every Burmese should get "asylum."
>> 
>> Be considerate, fellas.
>> Revolution is still alive.  Let's go together with full maturiy and
>> understanding among us.
>> Distinguish the problems with proper perspectives.
>> The new commers are not problems.  They came to the US for they had 
>> unbearable
>> problems; economic hardship, social crisis, lack of freedom of 
>> movement..
>> Remember the fact that All Burmese citizens inside Burma are now being
>> enslaved by the military regime.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Myo Thant
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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