Reply to : wake up, smell coffee (r)

[dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Subject: Re: Reply to : wake up, smell coffee

Dear Stuart Albright, now that you have made yourself known, or should I
say, promoted your self-interest to the groups, while offering little if
anything in the way of contributing to constructive and positive
criticism, let it be repeated this request now, who are you, who do you
work for, what is your interest in promoting Free Burma, a free and
democratic Burma, what have been doing to that end, and what do you
propose to do, individually, or with groups and members of like minded
free burma enthusiasts, and activists. 

Or are you a SPDC agent provocateur?

Try, if you will permit it being said, either be discreet, polite, 
directly, and not publicly, or if you wish to create confusion and
disperse energies needed elsewhere, then buzz off.

ds

ps if any more of your kind of slander and insults should
drop in my email box, they will not be read, not be responded to, and be
immediately deleted. this is my final message to you, and to the groups,
as you have made it your business to spam everywhere. my apologies to
the groups, and there will be no more of this tit for tat silliness from
this end. au revoir monsieur stuart albright if that is  your real name.

Stuart Albright wrote:
> 
> Dear Dawn Star,
> 
> What a ridiculous windbag you are.
> 
> Best wishes, Stu
> 
> >From: Dawn Star <dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: Stuart Albright <stuart_albright@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >CC: tinkyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx, burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Reply to : wake up, smell coffee
> >Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:52:09 +0200
> >
> >Dear Stuart, how good of you to write, and with such awesome and
> >commanding
> >determination. it is most admirable. yours is a fine craft of wit and
> >steady
> >helm in troubled waters. most assuredly, and reassuring pearls of wisdom
> >for
> >us all. however did you imagine for the slightest instant that an
> >ignorant and
> >lowly state of mind, should I even venture to dare and call it that,
> >might assume a tone, as you suggest, to patronize? Who? What? Where?
> >There is nothing at all I see here in my very limited and small view to
> >patronize. And conscience, that is indeed a very great thing, perhaps
> >even greater than "the movement", or any movement. Summer has past, and
> >winter is fast approaching, in my sector. Chill is not for me.
> >
> >It seems that you yourself in your mind have struck a cord. And it plays
> >for James. Admiration for James Mawdsley we all share, there can be no
> >doubt. His motivation and his life are his own. The cause is greater
> >than James or any rebel in the field. James is now locked up, and either
> >fortified or bearing the hardship well, it is to be hoped.Nothing should
> >undermine his committment, his determination, his show of moral
> >indignation. Not you or anyone. James is his own master, perhaps even
> >now, more than ever, as he is under a different master's hand, a most
> >intolerant one, where pain is the greatest pleasure of his wickedness.
> >You appear to know more than leaves me free to comment, as there can be
> >justice for my speaking out from ignorance and on things where i have no
> >certainty.
> >
> >I must repeat emphatically that strength in solidarity, is a virtue, and
> >your defeatist remarks are no tribute to James or anyone now fighting
> >for or working
> >towards freedom in Burma, on either side of the prison wall.
> >
> >Gandhi is a great example to be followed in Burma. And it may be a
> >solution. Fill the jails for freedom. So far nothing has seemed to work.
> >
> >I do not know you or what you are doing. Speak for yourself. My work and
> >my committment speaks for itself and needs no justification here other
> >than to say you are completely and regrettfully wrong. And you are
> >sinking to a low and uninspired voice of sadness and despair. Pull
> >yourself up Man, and stay on course! And stay well, keep a firm grip on
> >yourself and how you may each day work out the solutions, and contribute
> >to overcoming ignorance and despair.
> >
> >May I add that you would do well to read the works of Daw Aung San Suu
> >Kyi, and for that matter, His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
> >
> >Concentrate on what is important. And stay well and strong. And please,
> >in the future, should you wish to communicate with me, do it discreetly,
> >privately, without abuse or slander. Its not, well, very becoming. Its
> >negative, and boring.
> >
> >Finally, let me ask you, what can you do, today, to help James and
> >Rachel? Why dont you send them a letter through the Australian and UK
> >embassy's, and please, nothing but strong positive spirited words of
> >encouragement and forebearance. Tell him that the world is looking up to
> >him and he will not be forgotten. Thank you, ds
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Stuart Albright wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Dawn Star,
> > >
> > > There's no need to take this patronizing tone, which you seem to take
> >with a
> > > lot of people. You may think you're the conscience of the movement, but
> > > you're not. So chill.
> > >
> > > First: I have complete admiration for James, and consider him a friend.
> >More
> > > importantly, he's totally committed. He chained himself to Burma and
> >threw
> > > away the key. I say "poor James" because he showed the way, and no one
> > > followed. We chickened out. How can you talk about "solidarity in
> >strength"?
> > > If James is by himself, then there's no solidarity, no movement, no
> > > strength.
> > >
> > > That's why this is such an important moment. You were exactly right,
> >what
> > > you said about Gandhi's strategy of filling the jails. That was a
> >brilliant
> > > strategy, because there was no way the oppressors could fight it. Same
> >thing
> > > with SPDC. There's nothing in the way of action -- all you need is
> > > commitment. Fill the jails, and victory is inevitable.
> > >
> > > FACT: Nobody's doing it, Dawn Star. Not you, not me, not the hundreds of
> >NLD
> > > people who are resigning every week. SPDC is laughing right now.
> > >
> > > That's the truth, and you're just in denial if you accuse me of
> >defeatism.
> > > You refuse to look at the facts, and you just insist that nobody else
> >look
> > > at the fact either, we're all just supposed to lull ourselves into a
> >false
> > > sense of accomplishment.
> > >
> > > We have real problems, and we've got to solve them. Are you going to
> >help,
> > > or are you just going to keep on pretending everything's fine?
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > >From: Dawn Star <dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: Stuart Albright <stuart_albright@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >CC: tinkyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx, burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: Re: [burmanet2-l] Re: The Times - Bribery is key to life in
> > > >Burma's death jail
> > > >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:31:02 +0200
> > > >
> > > >Stuart, i will reply to you privately, but this message you posted
> > > >publicly so here and here alone let me say that this kind of defeatism
> > > >is ueseless and self-defeating and undermines every and all actions
> >that
> > > >we put forward and intend to put forward; james is a fighter, no more
> >of
> > > >this "poor james" business. he knew what he was doing, prepared himself
> > > >and was ready for what happened. do not underestimate him or his
> > > >determination or what he represents to the world. surely it is hard for
> > > >him and his parents and closest loved ones. this is a time for
> > > >solidarity, in strength, not weakness. the enemy will crush the weak
> > > >hearted and they find sick pleasure in it. it is the spirit that keeps
> > > >the body alive, remember that. ds
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Stuart Albright wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dawn Star,
> > > > >
> > > > > You're right, we don't know exactly what happened. All we know is
> >that
> > > >they
> > > > > put Rachel in jail, and suddenly thirty people who were planning to
> >do
> > > >the
> > > > > same thing instantly changed their minds. OK, whatever.
> > > > >
> > > > > With all the NLD members giving up anyway, what's the point? I know
> > > >they're
> > > > > being pressured, but if they're not willing to go to jail, why
> >should
> > > > > anyone else? Poor James.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu
> > > > >
> > >
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