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    SHUT UP SEIN WIN
    NON OF YOUR BUSINESS
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: CCT=20
      To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 1:23 PM
      Subject: Burma's news -2- Bangkok Post 2-10-99


      Exiled leader pleads against repatriation
      Torture, death await raiders if sent back
      Post Reporters
      The leader of Burma's parallel government yesterday appealed to =
the government not to repatriate or deport the dissidents who seized =
hostages and occupied the Burmese embassy.
      "We plead with the Thai government to take action according to =
Thai law except repatriating them.. repatriating them is simply letting =
them be tortured and killed," said Sein Win, when contacted in =
Washington.
      "We hope the Thai government sees the situation in a wider =
political context, not just as a question of people occupying the =
embassy," said Dr Sein Win, head of the exiled National Coalition =
Government of the Union of Burma.
      The storming of the Burmese embassy "happened because the military =
[junta in Rangoon] ignored the people's will", he said.
      The dissidents called on the ruling military junta to release =
political prisoners, enter into a "meaningful dialogue" with the =
pro-democracy opposition, and form a coalition government based on =
results of the 1990 election.
      "Young people are frustrated.. they have been waiting a long time =
for the military [junta] to change the way to democracy. They are quite =
angry," he said.
      Dr Sein Win was confident the hostage-taking would not hinder the =
cause of the pro-democracy opposition working inside and outside Burma.
      He said repression is increasing in Burma with more arrests of =
dissidents. He also said human rights violations in the Shan state are =
"happening every day on a large scale".
      "The military say one thing and do something else.. we don't know =
who is in charge," he said, referring to remarks made on Sept 24 in New =
York by Burmese Foreign Minister Win Aung
      U Win Aung told the Asia Society his government was trying to stop =
the fighting among warring factions.
      He also said the government was transitional, with democracy its =
goal.=20
      =
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      Ambassador says relations will stay intact
      Expert sees already bad ties worsening
      Post Reporters
      Burma's ambassador to Thailand said the hostage-taking would not =
harm bilateral relations, but an analyst disagreed.
      Ambassador Hla Maung, who escaped the hostage-taking because he =
was outside the premises at the time of the raid with six other embassy =
officials, said bilateral relations would remain good. "The Thai =
government is trying hard," he said. "Our relations are still good =
relations, no problem."But Chayachoke Chulasiriwongs, Burma specialist =
at Chulalongkorn University, believes the incident will worsen already =
bad relations.
      "Relations were already bad. What happened yesterday will only =
make matters worse," Mr Chayachoke said.
      The ambassador expressed confidence the 13 embassy officials held =
inside would be safe because of the attention Thai authorities were =
giving the matter.
      Foreign Ministry officials as well as the prime minister's =
secretary had contacted him, and the permanent secretary for foreign =
affairs had cancelled a trip to Europe in order to deal with the =
problem.
      "I like this manner," he said. The ambassador said he tried to =
reach a captive embassy official by calling his mobile telephone, but a =
man who identified himself as Johnny answered.
      The ambassador urged him "not to make trouble with our staff".
      Mr Chayachoke faulted the Thai government, especially intelligence =
agencies, for allowing the incident to happen.
      It will raise concern about the safety of other embassies in =
Thailand, Mr Chayachoke added.=20
      --------------------------------------------------=20
      All in camp accounted for
      A list of Burmese students at Ban Maneeloy holding centre in =
Ratchaburi has been checked and all are accounted for, Interior Ministry =
sources said.
      The camp in Suan Phueng district holds 900 Burmese students, =
according to records held by the ministry and the United Nations High =
Commissioner for Refugees.
      Investigators have not established if any Ban Maneeloy students =
were involved but believe the raid was the work of a radical armed group =
at the border.
      More than 100 Ban Maneeloy students rallied at the camp to call on =
the dissidents to refrain from violence against people in the embassy.
      The camp was sealed to prevent students from leaving and to enable =
officials to carry out a head count.
      Aung Soe, leader of the Ban Maneeloy students, who was taken to =
Bangkok to help negotiate with the dissidents, told police he knew =
nothing of the raid. He felt it might have been carried out by a =
200-strong group that broke from the mainstream body in recent months.=20
      ----------------------------------------------------------=20
      History repeats itself
      Hostage crisis echoes Israeli embassy raid
      The Burmese embassy crisis is a flashback to the 1972 hostage =
drama at the Israeli embassy engineered by the Black September Ali Taha =
terrorist group.
      Four Palestinian guerrillas stormed the embassy in Soi Lang Suan, =
off Ploenchit road, on Dec 28 and held six Israelis hostage including =
the then-Israeli ambassador to Cambodia.
      The terrorists threatened to shoot the hostages and blow up the =
embassy if their demand for the release of 36 Palestinians held in =
Israeli jails went unheeded. Police and army soldiers cordoned off the =
embassy while senior government officials led by Brig-Gen Chatichai =
Choonhavan, then deputy foreign minister, and ACM Dawee Chullasapaya, =
then chief-of-staff of the Supreme Command, tried to negotiate with the =
terrorists.
      Witnesses saw the four terrorists step out of a taxi and walk =
about in front of the embassy for a while before dashing to the front =
door of the building and smashing a glass panel to gain access to the =
compound at 11.30am.
      Brig-Gen Chatichai managed to establish dialogue with the =
terrorists but was held back from entering the embassy building for fear =
he might end up another hostage.
      Police set up their operation command centre in the deserted Mater =
Dei Convent across from the embassy. They were later joined by a unit of =
paratroopers and riot police.
      The Mater Dei centre soon became a meeting point of top officials. =
The then Israeli ambassador, Rehavem Amir, travelled back and forth =
between his residence and the command centre where he was frequently =
seen conferring with the Egyptian ambassador and top Thai cabinet =
members.
      After lengthy talks with the terrorists, ACM Dawee announced that =
they were ready to free the hostages provided their safe passage from =
Thailand was guaranteed. A breakthrough came when the terrorists agreed =
to exchange the hostages with 10 Thai officials to guarantee their safe =
getaway.
      The terrorists chose to go to Cairo. A number of airlines were =
approached and Thai Airways International was eventually assigned to fly =
them to the Egyptian capital.
      The 18-hour drama ended with all the hostages being released =
unharmed. The terrorists were flown to Cairo along with the officials =
who volunteered to be their new hostages including Brig-Gen Chatichai, =
ACM Dawee and Egyptian Ambassador Moustafa el-Assawy.
      ACM Dawee later said in Cairo his appeals to the terrorists on =
behalf of His Majesty the King had saved the Israeli hostages from =
almost certain death.
      The embassy seizure coincided with one of Thailand's most =
auspicious days when HRH Prince Vajiralongkorn was bestowed his title =
crown. The terrorists later said their willingness to compromise with =
Thai authorities stemmed purely from the fact they had chosen the wrong =
day to strike.
      The terrorists added they hoped their release of the hostages =
would demonstrate their goodwill towards Thai people.
      After the crisis was over, Thailand was showered with words of =
praise, especially from the then-Israeli ambassador who lauded Thai =
authorities for "remaining so cool and well-organised during those =
difficult hours".
      Golda Meir, then Israeli prime minister, said the Thai =
government's action in securing the release of the hostages should serve =
as a model for other governments faced with similar circumstances.=20
      ---------------------------------------------------------=20
      Attack on embassy is an outrage
      By forcing their way into the Burmese embassy with war weapons =
including assault rifles and hand grenades, and by taking hostages, the =
dissident Burmese students have stepped well over the line.
      They have used Thailand for hostile action against a foreign =
government and their activities can not be condoned.
      The students may well understand that support for their cause is =
widespread not only in Thailand but on the international scene, but they =
should be aware that the sympathy is founded on an injustice the people =
of Burma have suffered for decades.
      In taking matters into their own hands in violation of Thai and =
international law, they are playing with fire and weakening their own =
cause.
      Thailand can not tolerate the armed invasion of any diplomatic =
mission.
      We have obligations to ensure not only the safety of =
representatives of foreign governments but their ability to function =
without hindrance.
      Our relations with Burma are at best problematic, and the storming =
of the embassy will merely serve to make those relations more difficult.
      The action at the embassy is also likely to prompt a reaction on =
the part of authorities here that will work against the interests of =
Burmese people taking shelter on Thai soil.
      The raid will certainly draw international attention to the cause =
of a people who have struggled for more than four decades to choose =
their own leaders, but the fact is the generals in Rangoon have shown =
themselves to be unmovable objects. The events at the mission on Sathorn =
road are unlikely to bring about the departure of the State Peace and =
Development Council.
      So far, no one has been hurt.
      Shots have been fired and the action has caused alarm. Thai =
authorities have been correct to state that force will not be used to =
end the stand-off at the embassy.
      But it is important now that the students recognise that they are =
causing greater problems to the authorities here than they are to their =
adversaries in Rangoon.
      It is not too late to call the whole thing off, to understand that =
they have, by their actions, drawn the attention of the world to the =
plight of the Burmese people.
      Desperation and weapons make for a bad mixture and the longer the =
stand-off continues, the greater the temptation to bow to emotion and =
make a terrible mistake. This must not be allowed to happen.
      The cause of the Burmese democracy movement has won widespread =
support because of the sacrifices that have been made by ordinary people =
and the blood that they have shed. It is only natural that a sense of =
outrage remains among people who were given the opportunity to chart =
their own future only to have their hopes crushed by a regime that was =
merely toying with their democratic aspirations.
      It is also natural that the Burmese people feel let down badly by =
regional neighbours who chose to embrace their oppressive rulers as =
members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
      This newspaper stood firmly against the admission of the regime =
that purports to represent the people of Burma and has since demanded =
that the regional grouping act on its obligations to make Rangoon worthy =
of its membership.
      The consequences of the injustices that continue to be inflicted =
upon the people of Burma are today being felt in the heart of Bangkok.
      A problem caused by an oppressive regime is being visited upon a =
people largely supportive of the people of Burma.=20
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    <DIV><U><FONT color=3D#ff0000 size=3D7><STRONG>SHUT UP SEIN=20
    WIN</STRONG></FONT></U></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 size=3D7><STRONG><U>NON OF YOUR=20
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      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A href=3D"mailto:mandalay@xxxxxxxxxx"; =
title=3Dmandalay@xxxxxxxxxx>CCT</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <B>Cc:</B> <B>Sent:</B> =
Saturday,=20
      October 02, 1999 1:23 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Burma's news -2- =
Bangkok=20
      Post 2-10-99</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3D7><B>Exiled leader pleads against=20
      repatriation<BR></FONT></B><FONT size=3D5><I>Torture, death await =
raiders if=20
      sent back<BR></FONT></I><FONT size=3D3><B>Post =
Reporters<BR></FONT><FONT=20
      size=3D5>T</FONT></B><FONT size=3D3>he leader of Burma's parallel =
government=20
      yesterday appealed to the government not to repatriate or deport =
the=20
      dissidents who seized hostages and occupied the Burmese =
embassy.<BR>"We=20
      plead with the Thai government to take action according to Thai =
law except=20
      repatriating them.. repatriating them is simply letting them be =
tortured=20
      and killed," said Sein Win, when contacted in Washington.<BR>"We =
hope the=20
      Thai government sees the situation in a wider political context, =
not just=20
      as a question of people occupying the embassy," said Dr Sein Win, =
head of=20
      the exiled National Coalition Government of the Union of =
Burma.<BR>The=20
      storming of the Burmese embassy "happened because the military =
[junta in=20
      Rangoon] ignored the people's will", he said.<BR>The dissidents =
called on=20
      the ruling military junta to release political prisoners, enter =
into a=20
      "meaningful dialogue" with the pro-democracy opposition, and form =
a=20
      coalition government based on results of the 1990 =
election.<BR>"Young=20
      people are frustrated.. they have been waiting a long time for the =

      military [junta] to change the way to democracy. They are quite =
angry," he=20
      said.<BR>Dr Sein Win was confident the hostage-taking would not =
hinder the=20
      cause of the pro-democracy opposition working inside and outside=20
      Burma.<BR>He said repression is increasing in Burma with more =
arrests of=20
      dissidents. He also said human rights violations in the Shan state =
are=20
      "happening every day on a large scale".<BR>"The military say one =
thing and=20
      do something else.. we don't know who is in charge," he said, =
referring to=20
      remarks made on Sept 24 in New York by Burmese Foreign Minister =
Win=20
      Aung<BR>U Win Aung told the Asia Society his government was trying =
to stop=20
      the fighting among warring factions.<BR>He also said the =
government was=20
      transitional, with democracy its goal.=20
      =
<BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----------=20
      <BR></FONT><FONT size=3D7><B>Ambassador says relations will stay=20
      intact<BR></FONT></B><FONT size=3D5><I>Expert sees already bad =
ties=20
      worsening<BR></FONT></I><FONT size=3D3><B>Post =
Reporters<BR></FONT><FONT=20
      size=3D5>B</FONT></B><FONT size=3D3>urma's ambassador to Thailand =
said the=20
      hostage-taking would not harm bilateral relations, but an analyst=20
      disagreed.<BR>Ambassador Hla Maung, who escaped the hostage-taking =
because=20
      he was outside the premises at the time of the raid with six other =
embassy=20
      officials, said bilateral relations would remain good. "The Thai=20
      government is trying hard," he said. "Our relations are still good =

      relations, no problem."But Chayachoke Chulasiriwongs, Burma =
specialist at=20
      Chulalongkorn University, believes the incident will worsen =
already bad=20
      relations.<BR>"Relations were already bad. What happened yesterday =
will=20
      only make matters worse," Mr Chayachoke said.<BR>The ambassador =
expressed=20
      confidence the 13 embassy officials held inside would be safe =
because of=20
      the attention Thai authorities were giving the matter.<BR>Foreign =
Ministry=20
      officials as well as the prime minister's secretary had contacted =
him, and=20
      the permanent secretary for foreign affairs had cancelled a trip =
to Europe=20
      in order to deal with the problem.<BR>"I like this manner," he =
said. The=20
      ambassador said he tried to reach a captive embassy official by =
calling=20
      his mobile telephone, but a man who identified himself as Johnny=20
      answered.<BR>The ambassador urged him "not to make trouble with =
our=20
      staff".<BR>Mr Chayachoke faulted the Thai government, especially=20
      intelligence agencies, for allowing the incident to happen.<BR>It =
will=20
      raise concern about the safety of other embassies in Thailand, Mr=20
      Chayachoke added. =
<BR>--------------------------------------------------=20
      <BR></FONT><FONT size=3D7><B>All in camp accounted =
for<BR></FONT><FONT=20
      size=3D5>A</FONT></B><FONT size=3D3> list of Burmese students at =
Ban Maneeloy=20
      holding centre in Ratchaburi has been checked and all are =
accounted for,=20
      Interior Ministry sources said.<BR>The camp in Suan Phueng =
district holds=20
      900 Burmese students, according to records held by the ministry =
and the=20
      United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.<BR>Investigators =
have not=20
      established if any Ban Maneeloy students were involved but believe =
the=20
      raid was the work of a radical armed group at the border.<BR>More =
than 100=20
      Ban Maneeloy students rallied at the camp to call on the =
dissidents to=20
      refrain from violence against people in the embassy.<BR>The camp =
was=20
      sealed to prevent students from leaving and to enable officials to =
carry=20
      out a head count.<BR>Aung Soe, leader of the Ban Maneeloy =
students, who=20
      was taken to Bangkok to help negotiate with the dissidents, told =
police he=20
      knew nothing of the raid. He felt it might have been carried out =
by a=20
      200-strong group that broke from the mainstream body in recent =
months.=20
      <BR>----------------------------------------------------------=20
      <BR></FONT><FONT size=3D7><B>History repeats =
itself<BR></FONT></B><FONT=20
      size=3D5><I>Hostage crisis echoes Israeli embassy=20
      raid<BR></I><B>T</FONT></B><FONT size=3D3>he Burmese embassy =
crisis is a=20
      flashback to the 1972 hostage drama at the Israeli embassy =
engineered by=20
      the Black September Ali Taha terrorist group.<BR>Four Palestinian=20
      guerrillas stormed the embassy in Soi Lang Suan, off Ploenchit =
road, on=20
      Dec 28 and held six Israelis hostage including the then-Israeli =
ambassador=20
      to Cambodia.<BR>The terrorists threatened to shoot the hostages =
and blow=20
      up the embassy if their demand for the release of 36 Palestinians =
held in=20
      Israeli jails went unheeded. Police and army soldiers cordoned off =
the=20
      embassy while senior government officials led by Brig-Gen =
Chatichai=20
      Choonhavan, then deputy foreign minister, and ACM Dawee =
Chullasapaya, then=20
      chief-of-staff of the Supreme Command, tried to negotiate with the =

      terrorists.<BR>Witnesses saw the four terrorists step out of a =
taxi and=20
      walk about in front of the embassy for a while before dashing to =
the front=20
      door of the building and smashing a glass panel to gain access to =
the=20
      compound at 11.30am.<BR>Brig-Gen Chatichai managed to establish =
dialogue=20
      with the terrorists but was held back from entering the embassy =
building=20
      for fear he might end up another hostage.<BR>Police set up their =
operation=20
      command centre in the deserted Mater Dei Convent across from the =
embassy.=20
      They were later joined by a unit of paratroopers and riot =
police.<BR>The=20
      Mater Dei centre soon became a meeting point of top officials. The =
then=20
      Israeli ambassador, Rehavem Amir, travelled back and forth between =
his=20
      residence and the command centre where he was frequently seen =
conferring=20
      with the Egyptian ambassador and top Thai cabinet =
members.<BR>After=20
      lengthy talks with the terrorists, ACM Dawee announced that they =
were=20
      ready to free the hostages provided their safe passage from =
Thailand was=20
      guaranteed. A breakthrough came when the terrorists agreed to =
exchange the=20
      hostages with 10 Thai officials to guarantee their safe =
getaway.<BR>The=20
      terrorists chose to go to Cairo. A number of airlines were =
approached and=20
      Thai Airways International was eventually assigned to fly them to =
the=20
      Egyptian capital.<BR>The 18-hour drama ended with all the hostages =
being=20
      released unharmed. The terrorists were flown to Cairo along with =
the=20
      officials who volunteered to be their new hostages including =
Brig-Gen=20
      Chatichai, ACM Dawee and Egyptian Ambassador Moustafa =
el-Assawy.<BR>ACM=20
      Dawee later said in Cairo his appeals to the terrorists on behalf =
of His=20
      Majesty the King had saved the Israeli hostages from almost =
certain=20
      death.<BR>The embassy seizure coincided with one of Thailand's =
most=20
      auspicious days when HRH Prince Vajiralongkorn was bestowed his =
title=20
      crown. The terrorists later said their willingness to compromise =
with Thai=20
      authorities stemmed purely from the fact they had chosen the wrong =
day to=20
      strike.<BR>The terrorists added they hoped their release of the =
hostages=20
      would demonstrate their goodwill towards Thai people.<BR>After the =
crisis=20
      was over, Thailand was showered with words of praise, especially =
from the=20
      then-Israeli ambassador who lauded Thai authorities for "remaining =
so cool=20
      and well-organised during those difficult hours".<BR>Golda Meir, =
then=20
      Israeli prime minister, said the Thai government's action in =
securing the=20
      release of the hostages should serve as a model for other =
governments=20
      faced with similar circumstances.=20
      <BR>---------------------------------------------------------=20
      <BR></FONT><FONT size=3D7><B>Attack on embassy is an =
outrage<BR></FONT><FONT=20
      size=3D5>B</FONT></B><FONT size=3D3>y forcing their way into the =
Burmese=20
      embassy with war weapons including assault rifles and hand =
grenades, and=20
      by taking hostages, the dissident Burmese students have stepped =
well over=20
      the line.<BR>They have used Thailand for hostile action against a =
foreign=20
      government and their activities can not be condoned.<BR>The =
students may=20
      well understand that support for their cause is widespread not =
only in=20
      Thailand but on the international scene, but they should be aware =
that the=20
      sympathy is founded on an injustice the people of Burma have =
suffered for=20
      decades.<BR>In taking matters into their own hands in violation of =
Thai=20
      and international law, they are playing with fire and weakening =
their own=20
      cause.<BR>Thailand can not tolerate the armed invasion of any =
diplomatic=20
      mission.<BR>We have obligations to ensure not only the safety of=20
      representatives of foreign governments but their ability to =
function=20
      without hindrance.<BR>Our relations with Burma are at best =
problematic,=20
      and the storming of the embassy will merely serve to make those =
relations=20
      more difficult.<BR>The action at the embassy is also likely to =
prompt a=20
      reaction on the part of authorities here that will work against =
the=20
      interests of Burmese people taking shelter on Thai soil.<BR>The =
raid will=20
      certainly draw international attention to the cause of a people =
who have=20
      struggled for more than four decades to choose their own leaders, =
but the=20
      fact is the generals in Rangoon have shown themselves to be =
unmovable=20
      objects. The events at the mission on Sathorn road are unlikely to =
bring=20
      about the departure of the State Peace and Development =
Council.<BR>So far,=20
      no one has been hurt.<BR>Shots have been fired and the action has =
caused=20
      alarm. Thai authorities have been correct to state that force will =
not be=20
      used to end the stand-off at the embassy.<BR>But it is important =
now that=20
      the students recognise that they are causing greater problems to =
the=20
      authorities here than they are to their adversaries in =
Rangoon.<BR>It is=20
      not too late to call the whole thing off, to understand that they =
have, by=20
      their actions, drawn the attention of the world to the plight of =
the=20
      Burmese people.<BR>Desperation and weapons make for a bad mixture =
and the=20
      longer the stand-off continues, the greater the temptation to bow =
to=20
      emotion and make a terrible mistake. This must not be allowed to=20
      happen.<BR>The cause of the Burmese democracy movement has won =
widespread=20
      support because of the sacrifices that have been made by ordinary =
people=20
      and the blood that they have shed. It is only natural that a sense =
of=20
      outrage remains among people who were given the opportunity to =
chart their=20
      own future only to have their hopes crushed by a regime that was =
merely=20
      toying with their democratic aspirations.<BR>It is also natural =
that the=20
      Burmese people feel let down badly by regional neighbours who =
chose to=20
      embrace their oppressive rulers as members of the Association of =
Southeast=20
      Asian Nations.<BR>This newspaper stood firmly against the =
admission of the=20
      regime that purports to represent the people of Burma and has =
since=20
      demanded that the regional grouping act on its obligations to make =
Rangoon=20
      worthy of its membership.<BR>The consequences of the injustices =
that=20
      continue to be inflicted upon the people of Burma are today being =
felt in=20
      the heart of Bangkok.<BR>A problem caused by an oppressive regime =
is being=20
      visited upon a people largely supportive of the people of Burma.=20
      <BR>-------------------------------------------------------------=20
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