Captain Nelson Mandela

[dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Dawn Star wrote:
> 
> Re your comment on Mandela inviting Khin Nyunt to S Africa. Mandela
> didnt look too happy either when he had one his right side, Mobutu Sese
> Seko, and on his left side, Zaire's latest dictator, Laurent-Désiré
> Kabila. In fact, i never EVER saw Mandela look so uncomfortable.
> 
> Does anyone have any photo of Mandela greeting Khin Nyunt? Did he allow
> news photos to be taken of them together. Did he even greeet or talk to
> the dictator?
> 
> alot of you may not remember but you should. an example to dictators,
> and certainly Burma's dictators are counting their millions, or
> billions, if they dont get it from AID, the IMF and the World BAnk, they
> will count it from the drug trade. MOBUTU embezzled with the knowledge
> and complicity of the west for 30 YEARS! some $ 4 billion dollarsz
> (Financial Times)and despite formal warnings from the IMF senior
> officials, western govts continued to loan multilateral loans, nearly 4
> billion dollars between 1982 and 1991. Of coures, who's counting.
> During the same period the friendly IMF made SDR 821 million to Zaire.
> 
> AND RECENTLY THE RANGOON JUNTA FINANCE MINISTER MET WITH WORLD BANK AND
> IMF OFFICIALS!!!!!!!!!
> 
> So when Kabila and Mobutu met with Mandela on a South African naval
> vessel  in May 1997 MOBUTU was thinking principally about his billions
> and what little time left on earth he had to enjoy them, as a dying man,
> having seized power in 1965, only a couple years after Ne WIN did his
> coup.
> 
> "Intially the Central Intelligence Agency backed Mobutu with a covert
> line of financial assistance."
> 
> Did the CIA do the same for NE WIN? Of course, everyone was on the
> payroll...
> 
> In 1982, the IMf* then under Jacques de Larosière, a renchman, received
> a detailed account of Mobutu's bankings from a senior gernman banker,
> Blumenthal. Instead of cutting support, the IMF increased it!!!
> 
> Guess what. de Larosière is head of the european Bank for Reconstruction
> and Development.
> 
> It was a sad meeting for Mandela. On one side Mobutu, the leopard man
> with his imf, world bank and cia billions, and now the younger vigorous
> kabila, ready to devour the next generation of lenders.
> 
> But the question remains, does Mandela have any power to help Burma,
> instead of inviting the generals to the party?
> 
> ds
> 
ps the film is a 2.5 hour film Mobutu Roi du Zaire, (Joseph Desiré
Mobutu) by Thierry michel
you can see it in paris, now, and next oct 14 with militants against
mobutu and kabila, with Liberation newspaper, part of a program with AI
and RSF and FIDH 

> Nyi LWin wrote:
> >
> > > "But what we want to say to them (the student
> > > gunmen) is that what we are
> > > fighting is the use of arms to bring about political
> > > change."
> >
> > Yes, Anty Suu...They hold these guns to restore
> > democracy in our motherland, Burma and protect
> > themselves by the SPDC violence, in terms of self
> > defence.
> >
> > > Aung San Suu Kyi said she had a great deal of
> > > admiration for former
> > > guerrilla leader Xanana Gusmao, widely expected to
> > > become independent East
> > > Timor's first president.
> > >
> > > "I think he'll have to come and visit me in Burma,
> > > he seems to be freer than
> > > I am," she said.
> > >
> >
> > Yes,, Anty Suu...he is a freeman now because he holds
> > his arm for his nation's freedom. I am not so sure yet
> > whether Mr. Gusmao will change his mind when he
> > becomes "First President" after dealing with ASEAN's
> > goverments. As we had a bad lesson from former South
> > African prisoner, later became prisident, Mr. Mandela.
> > The former prisoner invited police chief Khin Nyunt as